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       Below from sheilagh. I asked her about Rhodiola. No time to check into any of the links below yet.


I use it to get through crunch time, when I feel fatigued and need to be able to keep body and decision making, both, going.

it seems to let the adrenal glands rejuvenate.

in preparing for my annual winter solstice party, I had big ambitions for arranging many little spaces in my house. used a dose of rhodiola every hour or two, was up til 5am, took a 3 hour nap, had to get back up (more rhodiola), got done with prep, took another tiny nap, got up & got dressed up for party, was able to *enjoy* the party. was very tired the next two days, but allowed myself sleep and rest. Probably five big doses over the course of one "all nighter".

rhodiola allowed me to push through, and keep enough mental edge to decide this or that thing, while completing a long project.

I've seen pre-packaged ginseng coffee, but I am very surprised no one offers a rhodiola-coffee blend. I add it, in the morning. I wouldn't try what this guy did, blending rhodiola with all the random energy herbs & vitamins that are in Blue Sky beverage (it's like a tiny can of Monster drink) -- http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=53636

My experiences are more like this, but I'm bad about taking it every day:

silly, in how little they really SAY:

a friend fighting Lyme's says it keeps her up if she takes it too late in the day, but I can take it before sleep (after a grueling day) and get rest, and wake up having lost an edge of fatigue that would otherwise remain in such cases. She's also had a blood test recently that finds her blood levels of B12 (methocobalamin) are dangerously HIGH. So there may be something besides Lyme going on.

this little blurb makes me think you might want to take it before sleep (when you can test whether it screws up your sleep!) because it might give you even MORE vivid dreams:

hmmmm. and I haven't taken it before bed recently. I recall that some herb I have gave me more vivid dreams .. I'll test this, but it might be a week or two before I can risk disrupting my sleep schedule.

this is the older article I usually share with people when introducing them to Rhodiola:

this site has people using it specifically entheogenically. the very last (short) posts are weird. I've heard it used to DECREASE dependence on nicotine (hypnotherapist who gets people off smoking is who introduced me to it) ... but a random poster claims it contains nicotine (no where else on the internet seems to confirm this) ... and the very last post, the guy had a bad trip but blames his set/setting:


and I got that link from a complicated thread on another forum, from this guy: Quote Sometimes Rhodiola will start making random memories from my past start popping into my head. The memories are often pleasant or neutral, so it's not bad. However, it will sometimes cause me to grin at inappropriate times, as I suddenly remember some random hookup from my 20s. End-Quote

This is why rhodiola is perhaps the most phenomenal supplement and experience enhancing supplement that is not fully blown psychedelic in nature.

Supplements that allow you to vividly, viscerally, and lucidly recall past events and reinterpret them, induce different conclusions from them than what you previously had concluded, this can intensify inspiration from an intellectual or artistic/philosophical standpoint quite potently. Rhodiola has the power to make you relive past experiences and change your perspective on them. You may find yourself relearning things you thought you never learned in the first place. It is incredibly strange. It changes perspective over time. To some degree, I think this is why people say it is such an effective anti-depressant.

Little random memories may be seemingly harmless or insignificant, but the underlying ability of rhodiola to shake out the closet so to speak goes much further- because rhodiola can be potentiated, and rhodiola has an initial effect for first time users.

Most people do not like the jitters that come with first time use of rhodiola, but if you rode it out and upped the dose, it becomes much more intense, especially when mixed with cordyceps. There are numerous medicinal mushrooms, anti-cancer mushrooms, etc, that all seem to potentiate rhodiola. Coffee potentiates it powerfully, and not just because of the caffeine, it has to do with the MAOI in coffee.


and that link isn't me, to be clear -- it's the guy/gal who posted the paragraphs I quoted, only that link takes you to a longer page with more info (and two people at the end of that longer page talk about a)nicotine in rhodiola, which seems bunk, the rest of the internet says nothing of the sort, and b) a guy had a bad trip, but admits his
set/setting was wonky.

and you can mention me now, if you want, re: vitamins. no need to go edit, or artificially add posts. just updating ya.

if you like the rhodiola and feel like posting about it, getting some attention to this website may help my friend Aisha (who introduced me to it) a bit more business:


I enjoy her product best  ... but it's a powder, and bitter, so a bit less easily dosed.

there are also stronger/better brands than what I sent you, but the tincture is easy, easy to use.

good luck!
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originalkitsune From: originalkitsune Date: September 8th, 2013 11:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
rhodiola is a great supplement. russian athletes have used it safely as well. rhodiola should not be mixed with coffee/caffiene because it can bring unwanted side effects. Really ginseng shouldn't be mixed with coffee either but they are using such a crap amount of ginseng that it does not matter.
alobar From: alobar Date: September 9th, 2013 08:39 am (UTC) (Link)
What's the harm of Rhodiola and caffeine? When at work I generally take 4 or so caffeine tablets and I am taking Rhodiola twice daily at present.
originalkitsune From: originalkitsune Date: September 9th, 2013 02:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
in some people this can cause overexcitement and unwanted energy boost with insomnia afterwards. If you've combined them and were fine, then it is probably ok for you. I can't even have one cup of weak coffee lest i stay up 72 hrs.
alobar From: alobar Date: September 9th, 2013 10:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
I am finding if I take Rhodiola at bedtime, then have to break sleep to pee a few hours later, I have insomnia after I walk to bathroom & back to bed.

I guess I'll take dose #2 of Rhodiola 4 hours before bedtime and see what that does.
alobar From: alobar Date: September 9th, 2013 09:02 am (UTC) (Link)

"can cause dreams that are excessively vivid, graphic, and rich with details."

How in the world can dreams be "excessively vivid"?
originalkitsune From: originalkitsune Date: September 9th, 2013 02:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Dreams like that are tiring as fuck. i hate those kinds of dreams unless i have a lot of recovery time or are purposefully doing dream work. One feels despite 8hrs of sleep unrested. In Chinese medicine this is referred to as "dream disturbed sleep".
sheilagh From: sheilagh Date: September 9th, 2013 02:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
did you ever find the packet of Arctic Root? it would've come in an order from iHerb.com.
alobar From: alobar Date: September 9th, 2013 10:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
I remembered it's here. I just haven't looked yet.

BTW, you recommend the powder from your friend. No $$ for it now, but I want to increase potency of my dose. The combo of Rhodiola being good for post traumatic stress, and possibly for life extension makes me want MORE!

How do you take the powder?

I find the liquid to be unpleasant. I usually follow a dose with Cepacol mouth wash.
sheilagh From: sheilagh Date: September 10th, 2013 02:21 am (UTC) (Link)
I put the liquid in a shot of coffee, slam :)
sometimes in water, it's easier diluted.

the powder that Aisha sells is .. odd. *much* more potent, but has "clinging" properties, it doesn't mix well with water drinks (it clumps as keeps little dry pockets of powder that remain bitter, unmixed) ... I can put it on fruit in a smoothy and then cover in liquid and it mostly all blends in. very tiny clumps left over. mostly, I fiddle with putting it into spare capsules I have, and taken it that way. (I have spares because I put sprinkles of probiotics on my kitties' daily meals.)

It also seems to strip a layer of mucus off my tongue, way back into my throat. Unpleasant, but not painful. Kinda like eating dried & powdered tangerine peel. hard to get rid of the taste, if I get any of the powder on my tongue.
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